
Reasoning Through the Bible
Taking a cue from Paul, Reasoning Through the Bible is an expository style walk through the Scriptures that tells you what the Bible says. Reviewing both Old and New Testament books, as well as topical subjects, the hosts methodically show how Scripture is one cohesive story. Critical Thinking with a little bit of theology and apologetics and you have what this podcast is about. Just like Paul on Mars Hill, Christianity today must address woke, deconstruction, and progressive Christianity, all topics that are addressed if we go purposefully through the Bible. Join Glenn and Steve weekly on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday as they reason with you through the Bible.
Reasoning Through the Bible
S6 || Faith in Action || Mark 2:1-12 || Session 6 || Verse by Verse Bible Study
What if the way we approach faith could transform our spiritual journey? Join us as we navigate the powerful stories within Mark, chapter 2, where Jesus' awe-inspiring return to Capernaum provokes a spectrum of reactions from eager followers to skeptical onlookers. We promise an exploration of how modern-day reactions to Jesus mirror those of the past, reflecting on churches that cater to superficial desires versus those that offer the challenging, authentic Gospel, fostering true spiritual growth. Uncover the essence of faith in action through the story of the paralytic man carried by his friends, a narrative that vividly illustrates how trust in Jesus can lead to profound healing. As we wrap up, we discuss the broader impact of Jesus' miracles on the people who witnessed them, noting their role in glorifying God and further establishing Jesus’ authority. Tune in to gain a deeper understanding of how these ancient narratives continue to resonate with and challenge us today.
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Welcome to Reasoning Through the Bible. My name's Glenn and I'm here with Steve. We are in the Gospel of Mark. So if you have your copy of the Word of God, open to Mark, chapter 2. As we saw in chapter 1, if you were with us, mark is the gospel of going and doing. We see action start from the very beginning of chapter 1. We see John the Baptist preparing the way for the Lord, the God Almighty, who is Jesus. We then see Jesus get baptized and announce the kingdom. John the Baptist preparing the way for the Lord, the God Almighty, who is Jesus. We then see Jesus get baptized and announce the kingdom.
Speaker 1:We saw Jesus go from town to town preaching. We saw Jesus heal many people. He healed an entire town. He healed a leper, he healed Peter's mother-in-law, but of course it doesn't tell us whether Peter wanted his mother-in-law healed, but that's another story for another day. At the end of chapter 1, we found Jesus in a state of going to the next town, because that's what he had come to do, which is go and teach. We're going to see even more of his wonderful miracles here in Mark, chapter 2. Steve, can you read the first two verses of Mark, chapter 2?
Speaker 2:When he had come back to Capernaum several days afterward, it was heard that he was at home and many were gathered together so that there was no longer room, not even near the door, and he was speaking the word to them.
Speaker 1:It says there in verse 1, he was at home. Well, which home? Well, it's most probably the home of Peter and Andrew, simply because in chapter 1, verse 29, it was Peter and Andrew's house that he had gone to. We also remember that Mark's gospel is really Peter's gospel because Peter was the one who Mark was going around being his interpreter. In verse 2, jesus always seems to draw a crowd. The crowd loves Jesus. Sometimes the crowd hates Jesus, but he's never just silent with nobody there. The end of verse 2, note that Mark doesn't tell us what Jesus preached. Mark is focused on action. We see here, steve, that Jesus goes to this home and he draws a crowd. What has been your experience? If we were to go out into the world and start to talk to just regular people that are not Christians and start to talk to them about Jesus, what kind of reaction would we get typically?
Speaker 2:I think sometimes it depends upon the venue or where we are whenever we start speaking the Word of God and talking about Jesus, as to what type of people are going to come up to us. But some people will come and are supporters. Other people are going to come and they're not going to be supporters of whatever it is that we're talking about, especially when it comes to Jesus. It seems, glenn, that you can talk about God all you want to, but whenever you specifically name the name of Jesus want to, but whenever you specifically name the name of Jesus, then for some reason that seems to trigger many people to have a negative reaction. I just find that curious that whenever Jesus is named specifically, that all of a sudden people sometimes have a negative reaction.
Speaker 1:When you mention Jesus out in the world, you will get a reaction. Some will be drawn towards him and some will be repulsed by him. But it's very rare you get no reaction. It's possible here that the reason why this crowd was drawn was because of the healings that had been done. Remember he was going around doing all these miracles. Remember he was going around doing all these miracles.
Speaker 1:And if you promote healing still today, you're going to get a crowd I think of over in John. I believe it's chapter 6, jesus did a great miracle. He fed people and then he had this discussion about them, trying to get them to realize that what he's saying I am the bread from heaven. And they said, well, give us some more of this bread because I'm hungry. And so they missed the point of Jesus being the main point. They wanted the miracles. Then Jesus over at John. He takes them out into the wilderness and says some hard things and says you're really going to have to focus on me. Many of them leave. I submit that's probably the case here.
Speaker 1:Jesus shows up at the beginning of Mark, chapter 2, and the crowd is drawn. Well, most likely the crowd's there because of the miracles and not because of the person of Jesus. Are people today crowding in to see the person of Jesus? If we preach Jesus, are our church standing room only, or if we preach miracle healing services, then we tend to draw a bigger crowd. But I submit, if you're just the plain bread and water of Jesus Christ, then the true spiritual people will show up. But you won't always draw a huge crowd. What's your opinion, steve?
Speaker 2:I think many times the watered-down Word of God draws more people than the actual strong Word of God, because people like to hear the nice things about the Word of God but whenever it comes to the things that talk about our behavior and things that we should turn away from the world, all of a sudden people don't want to hear that so much. So I agree with you Really, to grow a congregation, I think all you need to do is be consistent and preach the Word of God, but it needs to be the whole counsel of the Word of God and not just the things that are going to tickle people's ears, because that's one way you can grow a congregation. But I find that they're many times shallow in their faith and shallow in their knowledge of who God is on those type of congregations.
Speaker 1:I would agree, steve. I think you really hit the nail on the head. Now that I think about it, I think it's entirely possible that one of the reasons why, when we go out into the world and mention Jesus and don't draw a crowd is because we do such a poor job of presenting Jesus here. If we present Jesus, then at least we'll get the people that he draws to himself. I think that's really the weakness is, we don't go into the world enough and present Jesus. Next, in this passage we have this very familiar story of the men digging a hole in the roof and lowering down the man to be healed by Jesus. Steve, can you read Mark, chapter 2, from verses 3 to 12?
Speaker 2:And they came bringing to him a paralytic carried by four men. Being unable to get to him, meaning Jesus, because of the crowd, they removed the roof above him and when they had dug an opening they let down the pallet on which the paralytic was lying. Jesus, seeing their faith, said to the paralytic Son, your sins are forgiven. But some of the scribes were sitting there and reasoning in their hearts why does this man speak that way? He is blaspheming. Who can forgive sins but God alone?
Speaker 2:Immediately, jesus, aware in his spirit that they were reasoning that way within themselves, said to them why are you reasoning about these things in your heart? Which is easier to say to the paralytic your sins are forgiven? Or to say Get up and pick up your pallet and walk, but so that you may know that the Son of man has authority on earth to forgive sins. He said to the paralytic I say to you, get up, pick up your pallet and go home. And he got up and immediately picked up the pallet and went out in the sight of everyone, so that they were all amazed and were glorifying God, saying we have never seen anything like this.
Speaker 1:Again, very familiar story If you've been a Christian at all. This is one they teach to children many times. But I think there's some very critical things that we can draw from this. All of us, even if we've heard it before. These fellows, these friends, had someone who was paralyzed. He was in need and they knew if they could get him to Jesus then Jesus would do some grand work, possibly even heal their friend. So they were determined to get their friend to Jesus. Jesus drew a big crowd and they couldn't get in the door of this home, probably a small home and many people in it, so they couldn't get in. So they go up on the roof and they open up the roof and let their friend down. Now we don't know how much of a roof there was there, but there was some degree of having to struggle to get their friend to Jesus. Here's a question, steve how hard do we today have to work to get to Jesus?
Speaker 2:We don't have to do really anything to get to Jesus. We don't have to do really anything to get to Jesus. All we have to do is believe. We have to acknowledge who he is and what he has done his death, burial and resurrection. Believe in the promises that he has made for us, and it says that believe on the Lord, Jesus Christ, and you shall be saved. So it's not difficult or any work on our part that we have to do in order to come to Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1:If we have a friend, family member who is in need and we want to get them some help what is the first place that we should try to get them?
Speaker 2:to Get them to Jesus Christ, get them to the person that can do something about it. The question is if they're not saved, then they need healing of their soul, which is going to be an everlasting healing in the long run. But that's who we need to get them to Jesus Christ one way or the other.
Speaker 1:These people took their friend, carried him down the street on a pallet, had to figure out how to get in, carried him up the stairs, dug a hole in the roof, lowered him down. They had to do a fair amount of work to get their friend to Jesus. And each of us should ask ourselves how hard have I worked to get my family to Jesus? How hard have I worked to get my friends to introduce them to the creator of the universe, the Lord Jesus Christ? So just a rhetorical question, but that's our example here is bring our friends to Jesus. Then, in verse 5, it says there Jesus, seeing their faith, is it possible to see faith? What does faith look like?
Speaker 2:He's seeing their faith because they have gone to the point of digging this hole in this roof, breaking through to lower their friend, who is paralyzed. It took an effort because he's dead weight, he's paralyzed, he can't help himself up the steps to the roof, and to also do the activity to dig through the roof and then to lower himself down this whole time it's dead weight. That's the faith that Jesus is seeing, that these men have gone to the trouble to bring their friend and get him in front of Jesus through all of these obstacles.
Speaker 1:Mark 2.5 says Jesus seeing their faith. He could see it. And I reminded Steve of over in James. When we went through James we pointed this out. James 2.18 says, quote show me your faith without your works and I will show you my faith by my works, and we made a big deal there is. That passage is talking about show me, I want to see it. So Jesus here in Mark 2.5, he saw it. He could see their faith. Faith is seen in the action. Faith is seen in the demonstration of the faith. Ask one question prior to that, Steve what is faith, Faith, is from the Greek word pistis.
Speaker 2:It means to be firmly persuaded and convinced. It's not a blind faith, it's not just a leap of faith of not knowing. No, the faith that's spoken of in the scriptures and which is also the root word of believe. Pistis means to be firmly convinced and persuaded Whenever someone comes to believe in Jesus Christ. That's what they have gone, that's the process if I could use that word that they have gone through. They have changed their mind, they have repented, changed their mind about who Jesus is, and they've come to be firmly persuaded and convinced who he is and what he has done in his death, burial and resurrection and therefore place their faith in him.
Speaker 1:I always think of faith as trust, and the illustration I always have is if you go to, say, a college course and there's a professor there, say a PhD, and maybe he's a world-renowned expert in his field, in the course of the class he tells you this is how things are in this field of study, I'm a world-renowned expert. I can tell you this is true. If you trust him as the world-renowned expert, he's told the other true things in the past, so I'm going to believe him on this one. That's faith. If, on the other hand, you say you know he says he's a world-renowned expert, but I'm going to go check him out and I'm going to go test everything he does and I'm going to do the experiment myself and prove it for myself, then that's not faith. That's demonstration.
Speaker 1:On one hand, you have trust. I trust the person who's telling me things and I trust the statements they tell me. Or am I not going to trust them? That's faith. Faith is no more nor less than trusting what Jesus tells us here. Next question is how do I know if I have faith? How do I know if I have enough? Is there a certain amount that I have to have? You know, steve, there's been times in church history when people felt they had to really struggle to get enough faith and they had a lot of doubt. Every now and then you'll still run into people that have doubts Really, do I really have enough faith to be saved? So that person out there that may not know gee, do I have enough faith or not? What would we tell them?
Speaker 2:Jesus in one of the other gospels says I have come to give you life and to give it to you more abundantly. The gospel says I have come to give you life and to give it to you more abundantly. Also, john says I have written these things so that you might know that you have salvation. I believe that whenever a person becomes firmly persuaded and expresses their belief in Jesus Christ, they're dwelt by the Holy Spirit and I believe that they know that they have this salvation. It kind of comes back to what we talked about in a couple of sessions ago about feelings.
Speaker 2:Feelings can be a little bit misleading and sometimes our feelings might get to a point where we say, oh, am I really saved? Do I have salvation? Do I have this faith? But I think that we should know and believe based off of what the scripture says. Whenever you come to that believing faith, believe on the Lord, jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and it's just as simple as that. I also believe that you will know that you have salvation, but you need to continue on and go through the sanctification process of becoming more Christ-like. Study his word, come to know him better, go out and pray early in the morning, as Jesus gave us a demonstration of in chapter 1, and get close to God. That way you can become more firm in your knowledge that you do have that salvation.
Speaker 1:If we ask the question what is faith? How do I know if I have it and if I have enough of it? I would merely point you to this story here in Mark, chapter 2. Jesus saw their faith. How did he see their faith? Because of their action. They took their friend to Jesus. They took their friend to Jesus because they had faith that Jesus would heal him. How could he see it? He saw it in their actions.
Speaker 1:My friend, if you're concerned with whether you have enough faith, the real question is are you following what Jesus tells you to do? Are you going to him yourself? Are you taking your friends to Jesus? Are you listening to his commands and following them, even though, okay, in the world, I may have doubts whether this is the right way to go. Are you trusting him to lead your life? If you are, then you have faith. If you're saying, well, that's nice, but I'm going to do it my way, then you don't have faith. It's really that simple. You see faith in your actions.
Speaker 1:Again back to James, chapter 2, show me your faith. That's what he's saying. Now. It also says here they took him to Jesus. Jesus seeing their faith. Now, steve, it seems to be here that there's a connection between the faith of these four friends and this man's healing. Now, I don't think we can go too far down that path in saying that one caused the other and necessarily say that that's going to happen every single time. In other words, jesus healed because Jesus wanted to heal. But in this case I do think there's a connection in between the faith of these friends and the healing of this man. Seeing their faith, he healed them.
Speaker 1:I think we can't deny that there is a connection between faith and healing. What I think we can stop short of is saying that God's a divine vending machine that if I put in enough faith he's going to guarantee that he's going to give me some sort of thing that I want. God doesn't work like that. But I think that there's a connection between having the faith in God that he can do things and God actually doing them, and I think that we should have faith. We should have faith that God will work things out and notice in the scriptures he doesn't always do necessarily what we want and what feels good to us. That's where I think we get off track, but nevertheless, if we go to him in faith, he will resolve the problem.
Speaker 1:The second thing I notice in this passage it's their faith. Seeing their faith, the faith belonged to them. Whose was it? It was their faith. They had the ability to exercise their own faith. They took their friend to Jesus because they had faith. It doesn't say that the faith was God's, that he gave them. No, it was their faith. Thoughts on that.
Speaker 2:Steve, we also don't know the backstory. It could have been that the paralytic that's not recorded here said can you get me to Jesus, because if you get me to Jesus then I have a chance of being healed. Of course, we don't have to have that story for this narrative here. One thing here is their faith. What is their faith? Is their faith that their friend is going to get healed? Is it just that simple? I think it's a little bit deeper. I think their faith is in Jesus, has the authority to heal their friend, and that's the faith that Jesus is seeing and that's the faith that they're expressing. It's not just the faith that their friend's going to get healed, it's the faith that Jesus has the ability to heal him and will heal them. I think that's the faith that they're expressing by their actions that they're doing.
Speaker 1:I think you're absolutely right. The faith there is in Jesus. We have faith in something that's worthy of the faith. Then we have in verses 5, and then 6 and 7, jesus says something to them and then there's a reaction from the Pharisees. What does he say and what's their reaction?
Speaker 2:Well, in verse 6, it says that some of the scribes that were sitting there, the teachers and the Pharisees, were also in the room. They were reasoning in their hearts. As I mentioned in the last session, there were two stages. Whenever somebody came and said that they were the Messiah, or said that they were the king bringing the kingdom, the Sanhedrin would send people out scribes and Pharisees to observe what they were doing and then come back and report to them whether or not this person should be taken seriously. If they were taken seriously, then the next stage was to go out and challenge them with questions. These scribes are sitting here. They're not directly challenging Jesus, but they're reasoning and saying why does this man speak this way? Why is he blaspheming? In other words, who can forgive sins except for God? Jesus knows what they're thinking, because he's aware of it, because he is God and he gives an answer to them.
Speaker 1:This paralyzed man comes floating down from the ceiling because his friends let him in. Jesus sees him there and says your sins are forgiven. The Pharisees react and say oh, this is blasphemy. Who can forgive sins but God alone? Question Steve were they right or were they wrong?
Speaker 2:No, they're exactly right. Who can forgive sins except for God alone? This is another area where, again, people like to say skeptics and others like to say Jesus never said that he was God. No, through his actions, he was always declaring that he was God. Other people will also say the gospel of Mark never states that Jesus was God no, through this story, jesus is clearly showing that he is God.
Speaker 1:The deity of Jesus Christ is in every chapter of Mark. If you have a paper book, it gets all over your fingers and squeezes out all over the table. It's everywhere in the gospel of Mark. Here is one of the places he was declaring this man's sins forgiven, and they were exactly right. Who can forgive sins but God alone? That part they were right on. What they were wrong about is they didn't think Jesus was God. They were denying the deity of Jesus Christ, but he was not blaspheming because he is God. That was the point of exactly what he was trying to do. And Jesus waited until these scholars of the law were there and did this healing right in front of them and said those words so he could drive home that point. He was very clearly declaring himself to be God in front of the leaders, the educated people, by saying your sins are forgiven and I can prove it by healing this man.
Speaker 1:The other thing we notice here if you look at verses 6 and again in 8, it says it in both places they were reasoning in their hearts. This tells us that in the Bible the heart is not a center of emotions. We tend to throw that around in today's language. We think. Well, there's a heart knowledge and a head knowledge, and the Bible does not think that way. In the Bible, you can reason in your heart. You can think through things. The heart in the Bible is like the heart of a tree. It's the center of the tree, it's the center of what makes you you. Your heart is merely down to your core, the center of you. When it says they were reasoning in their hearts, it means they were just reasoning down inside their inner self. That's what it's talking about when we'll use the phrase today, give your heart to Jesus, it just means not your emotions, it's talking about your entire being. That's what he's talking about here.
Speaker 1:In the Bible, the heart is not separated from the mind and the reason. It's possible to reason in your heart because these people are doing it there. We can reason in our heart. The issue is not whether we can reason in our heart. The issue is whether we are reasoning correctly or, on the other hand, aligning our reasoning to worldly things or godly things. We can indeed use our minds to reason things about God. Even a lost person can. According to Romans 1, verse 20 and following Then in verse 8, steve. It talks about what Jesus knows. What does Jesus?
Speaker 2:know, he knows what they're thinking about and he knows exactly that they said. Why is he blaspheming? Only God can forgive sins.
Speaker 1:So if he knows their thoughts, what does that tell us about Jesus as a person? If he knows what they're thinking and what they're reasoning in their minds, what does that tell us about Christ?
Speaker 2:It's another demonstration of his deity, because only God knows our thoughts. How much does Jesus know? He knows everything. He knows everything about us, just like God knows everything about us, if we come to terms with the idea that Jesus knows all of my thoughts.
Speaker 1:He knows all of my inner core being, even knows the reasons why I do things, even when I don't admit to myself why I do them. If he knows all of that, does that bother us or does it give us comfort?
Speaker 2:Maybe sometimes it's a little bit of both. It should give us comfort. Sometimes it's a little bit of both. It should give us comfort. In Scripture it even says that the Holy Spirit is groaning on our behalf for some of the things that we are doing. So I think it should give us comfort that there are times whenever we think we might not be able to express our feelings and our despair enough. I think it's comforting to know that Jesus does know this despair and can empathize with us and knows what needs to be done in order to take that despair and worry away from us. Paul in Philippians, chapter 4, paraphrasing it, says worry about nothing, pray about everything, and God will grant you the peace beyond all understanding. It should be a great comfort to us that Jesus knows us inside and out.
Speaker 1:None of the Old Testament prophets was able to discern the thoughts of other people or control demons and nature as Jesus does. This is one of the places in Mark where it does indeed tell us that Jesus is God, because he knows their hearts, knows what they were thinking. And the only way that would bother us Jesus does indeed know all things the only way that would bother us is if I'm trying to hide something from him and I'm trying to keep something to myself that's a secret and oh, he knows about my secret. That would bother me. But if I'm just open and honest with him, then it would be comforting because he's always gentle, he's always loving. Now he may do some drastic things at times. He may take a scalpel and cut it out, but that's a good thing. When a surgeon cuts out a cancer, then he's doing it for a good reason and it may hurt, but it's ultimately good for us.
Speaker 1:The only reason why we would ever take a problem of knowing that Jesus knows everything in our heart is if I'm trying to hide something from him. And we might as well admit it, my friend, you might as well confess it to him, because he knows it all anyway, and fall into his arms, and that's a very comforting thing that we have an all-wise person that can heal us and direct us. So he says your sins are forgiven. And they question it. He then says what he says so that it's just as easy for me to forgive sins as to heal this man, and so that you'll know. Then he tells them rise up and walk. What does that tell us about Jesus' ability to forgive?
Speaker 2:sins. It tells us that he has that ability. In an earlier session you talked about how the rabbis taught with a question and answer type of way. This is another way they taught of hard things to easy things, of complex things to simple things. Jesus is doing the same thing here, but he's doing it in reverse. He's teaching these scribes and Pharisees that are sitting here that have this question in their heart of why is he blaspheming? He's doing this method of teaching, but it's reversed. He's saying which is harder? Is it harder for me just to declare that somebody's sins are forgiven or to actually heal somebody with my word? So he says, in order to demonstrate to you, he goes to the paralytic and says take up your mat and walk, and immediately he healed this paralytic to prove to them, by doing the hard thing of the healing with just his word, that he could be able to do the simple thing of forgiving the sin of man.
Speaker 1:He proved he could forgive sins by doing the thing they could see, which is healing the man. They couldn't see the man's sins forgiven. They could see his healing. He does this visible miracle so that they would know that he had the power to forgive sins. He says that in Mark 2.10, but so that you may know that the Son of man has authority on earth to forgive sins, he said to the paralytic I say to you, get up, pick up your pallet and go home. He says, so that you may know that I have this ability Also there, steve, this introduces this term son of man, and he refers to himself in almost like a third person son of man here.
Speaker 1:Couple of things we can learn from that. This is a direct reference to himself, right there, not some sort of other person or not some sort of future time. He's not referring to the Father in heaven, the Son of man. It also is a term that the scribes who he's talking to would immediately know what he's talking about, which the Messiah, back in Daniel 7. Uses that exact term Son of man when he claims there to say this is me, son of man, I can forgive sins. He's not only claiming to be the God Almighty. He's not only claiming to have the power to forgive sins and the power over sickness and death, but he's also claiming to be the Messiah right out of Daniel 7.13, the one that is sitting at the right hand of power and coming on the clouds. He mentions that later as well, that phrase coming on the clouds. So it's a tremendous, tremendous claim here, and of course, the scribes and the Pharisees would know exactly what he's talking about.
Speaker 2:Through all of these things that he's doing, the actions that he's taken. These scribes and we'll see this as we continue through Mark. They go back to the Sanhedrin and they obviously report hey, this person is different. This person is claiming to be the Messiah, and his actions are such that we need to now take it to the next step and start challenging him and investigating him further. It's almost like Jesus is overwhelming them with so much things claiming to be God, claiming to be the Messiah, claiming to be the king that's going to bring about the kingdom, because the king is here. It's all of these things that are coming at once. It's not some person that's out there claiming to be one or the other, he's claiming to be it all.
Speaker 1:So this miracle of this paralytic being healed. Yes, he did it out of compassion on this individual man, but there's a much larger purpose, and the purpose is really aligned with every other miracle in the Gospels and the New Testament. The miracle yes, it's done out of compassion, but that's not the primary reason for a miracle. The primary reasons for a miracle are to demonstrate the authority of the Lord Jesus Christ, that he is true in what he says, he is, that he is. God has the power to forgive sins. And then look at the other reason in the middle of verse 12. Everyone saw it.
Speaker 1:Remember, he did this not only in front of the religious leaders, the educated people, so that they would know that he's claiming to be the Son of God, the Messiah, god Almighty, but he's also doing it in front of the commoners, the people Remember the whole building was full of people. And in the middle of verse 12, it says they were amazed and were glorifying God. What is the purpose for a miracle? So that people will glorify God. Not to glorify some human, it's not to glorify a person with a gift, it's to glorify God. So that's what we see here with this wonderful healing of this paralytic.
Speaker 2:They were also saying we have never seen anything like this, this Jesus that has come along, definitely something that he is overwhelming everyone with, with everything that he's doing and saying.
Speaker 1:So we're out of time for today, so we'll pull it to the curb for now. We still have more people here that he's going to run into. Remember, mark is going to have interactions with a large number of people and we'll see that next time.
Speaker 2:on Reasoning Through the Bible Thank you so much for watching and listening and, as always, may God bless you.